but let me ask but senator eleanor holmes-norton. she said, we do not intend to stabbed by when susan rice who, had nothing to do with the benghazi attack or its aftermath is the scapegoat. she is not clamoring for her own party, for the administration to tell us, what did you know? when did you know? and why are you dragging your feet on it? she's missing the point. do you agree? >> she's missing the point. she is playing politics. she knows she has cover because the mainstream media is going right along with her and the suggestion that obama and his closest people in the white house did nothing wrong in benghazi. obviously, they did. four brave and innocent americans were killed in this attack. and still, the american people are left with so many questions. and spokespersons for this incident this, tragedy, are wanting to play politics instead of being straight with the people. >> yes. and the press secretary, jay carney, is i think likewise, subject to legitimate criticism. i assume that he has access to information and for many d